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Is Marc Faber’s Gold Valuation Rationally Optimistic Or Just Insane

by Trace Mayer, J.D. on April 14, 2011 · 9 comments

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The precious metals have been on a tremendous upleg as I predicted. But for the past few years I have maintained that gold and silver are about average value and sometimes a little expensive. In other words, they are no where near as cheap as they were at the beginning of this secular bull market in 1999.

Then my ears perked up when I heard Marc Faber on CNBC say, “I think maybe gold is cheaper today than it was in 1999 when it was $252.”

Is Mr. Faber’s subjective valuation of gold rationally optimistic, delusional or just plain insane?

Plus, one should be acutely aware of return-free risk.

HOW TO VALUE GOLD AND SILVER

When I am looking to buy or sell an asset, whether real estate, stock, bonds or precious metals, I generally use the 200 day moving average to determine its relative price and give a quick determination of whether it is cheap, average or expensive. On RunToGold I even have key ratios where one can easily view the DOW:gold or DOW:silver ratios based on the spot price or 200 day moving averages. I find these extremely helpful to get a quick assessment of current market ratios.

Despite being extremely bullish about silver and understanding the silver backwardation implications on the silver price I have nevertheless been extremely cautious because of the overstretched 200 day moving average; based purely on technicals silver looks very expensive and due for a correction to around $30. But these are just techniques and do not get to the fundamental issues. They are only as good as their underlying premises.

Many financial professionals struggle with valuing gold. This is because traditional valuation techniques and strategies focus on discounted future cash flows, discount rates, interest rates, risk-free rates, real returns, ROI, IRR, WACCs, etc. Distilled simply they base all of their premises and conclusions on a faulty premise: The 10 year US Treasury is the risk-free rate.

As a result, most people including almost all the gold bugs I know keep their balance sheets, income statements and cash flow statements using the FRN$ or Euro as the numeraire. Even among gold bugs I know it is only myself and Anthem Blanchard who seem to keep regular financial statements denominated in gold as the numeraire.

The truth of the matter is that the benchmark for ‘risk-free’ is subjective and a decision every investor should make for themselves. What one uses for a numeraire is a completely different issue from what one should buy, sell or hold, etc. Plus, one should be acutely aware of return-free risk. Here are a few of the factors that persuaded me to use gold as my prime numeraire:

1. Gold, an element in the periodic table, is a tangible physical asset with a constant definition.

2. There are large above ground stockpiles of gold which results in low relative changes in size and those changes are largely predictable.

3. Gold is a current asset with significant financial liquidity properties. It belongs in the cash portion of the balance sheet.

4. Gold has value in itself, is not subject to counter-party risk and can never become worthless.

5. Gold has a long-term relationship with other commodities. Professor Jastram in The Golden Constant explained on page 130,

As we have said, the purchasing power of gold depends on the relation of commodity prices to gold prices. A close scrutiny of this relationship over time discloses an affinity of a curiously responsive character. It could be called the ‘Retrieval Phenomenon’, meaning that the commodity price level may move away higher or lower, but it tends to return repeatedly to the level of gold.

6. When feeling insecure about the financial and economic conditions one can always pet their gold. Go ahead, pet your platypus.

Perhaps most shocking when one begins to perform this initial paradigm change is to see what I like to call the inversion of interest incomestore of capital expense.

SWITCHING ONE’S LENS

Viewing the financial and economic world through the prism of the FRN$, Euro, Yen, Pound, etc. leads to gross distortions. Due to the gold price suppression scheme one’s vision is only slightly improved, and definitely not to 20/20, by viewing through the lens of gold as numeraire. But the one-eyed man is the dodgeball God when playing among the blind.

To be honest, I do not really care if people disagree with how I assess value; I just kick their bum in the market and am rewarded with the purchasing power. It reminds me of what one of my banker’s said about 10 months after we had closed on an acquisition, “You sure underpaid for that business.” My response was, “We were buying, right?” Duh. Plus, the seller named his price so he got exactly what he wanted!

In nature, atrophy is the natural order of things. The fiat currency and fractional reserve banking system has resulted in a concave financial prism that results in a financial inversion. The natural order of things would have a negative, not positive, interest rate. Perhaps most shocking when one begins to perform this initial paradigm change is to see what I like to call the inversion of interest incomestore of capital expense.

For example, if you have a batch of bananas or wheat you would not expect there to be more of higher quality tomorrow merely by the fact of putting them in a pile. In most cases, wealth does not just magically create and organize itself. In fact, most rational people would assume there would be less wealth because the bananas or wheat would spoil. So likewise with gold; there is a storage expense and insurance instead of earning interest. Most people forget that interest is supposed to compensate for risk which has largely been cartelized and resulted in tremendous moral hazard that will be meted out under economic law with systemic collapse.

If you had 3,800 gold ounces, about $1,000,000 of value, in 2001 and wanted to store the capital until 2007 you could choose among many different tools. Let’s assume you chose an interest bearing checking account and GoldMoney. The monthly store of capital expense for the bank account is about $1,500 while about $500 using GoldMoney. I should probably run the numbers to see if the fiat currency and fractional reserve banking system has gotten more expensive since 2007 but this is what Mr. Faber is asserting.

CONFISCATING CERTIFICATES OF CONFISCATION

THE CURRENT VALUE OF GOLD

Over the past 40 years, the world economy has attempted to leave gold’s orbit through the world reserve currency rocket of the FRN$ but it has ran out of fuel before reaching escape velocity and therefore been unsuccessful which has resulted in The Great Credit Contraction that has only just begun a few years ago with capital burrowing down the liquidity pyramid. The regression theorem reversed.

A tremendous portion of the liquidity pyramid, particularly with derivatives, has been created since 1999. Looking just at high-powered currency, the adjusted monetary base, relative to gold gives an interesting valuation metric. Supposedly the United States government has 261.5 million ounces of gold in Fort Knox. Despite the gold having not been audited in over 50 years and rampant corruption, inefficiency, misstatements, lies and omissions by the United States and other governments on countless topics we will assume for the sake of argument that they really do have the approximately 8,000 tons of gold.

This chart from the Federal Reserve Bank of Saint Louis shows there was approximately $500B of adjusted monetary base in 1999 and about $2.5T in March 2011 with a corresponding 5.8x increase in the price of gold relative to FRN$. This places a ratio of adjusted monetary base to gold in 1999 of $1,912 and in 2011 of $9,478.

Reasoned analysis for Mr. Faber’s valuation comes into focus. As Mr. Robert Landis asserted at GATA’s 2005 event, “Any rational person who continues to dispute the existence of the rig after exposure to the evidence is either in denial or is complicit.” GATA asserts that central banks have only 1/2 to 1/3 of the gold they claim which would yield a ratio of $28,434.

After all of the worldwide quantitative easing and competitive devaluation of the last few years what are the adjusted monetary base ratios of the ECB, Bank of England, Korea, China, Japan, etc. relative to their minuscule gold holdings? As Alan Greenspan said to the Council of Foreign Relations, “Fiat money has no place to go but gold.”

When the crystal ball is clouded just hunker down at the liquidity pyramid’s tip.

CONCLUSION

For the last several years I have thought that gold and silver were about average valued based on the current market conditions and their liquidity. But after hearing Mr. Faber’s assertions that gold may be cheaper now than in 1999 and analyzing the changed market conditions such as the rise of the digital gold currency GoldMoney, increased gold hypothecation via JP Morgan, tremendous increase in the adjusted monetary bases of central banks around the world, failed quantitative easing policies, the exacerbation of the Greater Depression , lack of access to knowledge and facts concerning the true state of affairs which is exemplified by Bloomberg taking the Federal Reserve to the Supreme Court and negative business and entrepreneurial environment due to increased government regulation and taxation therefore I may be changing my view on the underlying valuation of the precious metals. Despite the massive secular bull market they may actually be getting cheaper!

The current metals prices may seem high in nominal terms but what is unseen is the change in fundamental value of the FRN$. I hate owning the precious metals because of the store of capital expense. I would much prefer to own a wealth generating business or real estate. But for now I will continue to buy gold, silver, platinum and palladium only because I do not see any other better alternatives and the difficulty in discerning the financial and economic landscape because of the twilight zone induced effects from quantitative easing. In other words, when the crystal ball is clouded just hunker down at the liquidity pyramid’s tip.

DISCLOSURES: Long physical gold, silver, platinum and palladium.

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Trace Mayer, J.D., author of The Great Credit Contraction holds a degree in Accounting, a law degree from California Western School of Law and studies the Austrian school of economics. He works as an entrepreneur, investor, journalist and monetary scientist. He is a strong advocate of the freedom of speech, a member of the Society of Professional Journalists and the San Diego County Bar Association. He has appeared on ABC, NBC, BNN, radio shows and presented at many investment conferences throughout the world. This is merely one article of 238 by .
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1 Andy B April 14, 2011 at 10:15 pm

Appreciate the view here Trace. I also hesitate to say the price is cheap (or even reasonable) for metals the last couple of years. Yet when you look at the central banks money creation, the value is perhaps growing in the PMs. Thanks.

2 John Nickerson April 16, 2011 at 6:11 am

Where do you think we are in the great credit contraction?

3 Trace Mayer, J.D. April 17, 2011 at 7:26 pm

John, I think we are in the beginning. The great credit expansion took about 500 years and the great credit contraction will probably only take 40-50. At most we are 10-15 years in.

4 Sleep Well Silver May 23, 2011 at 6:03 am

Trace
Do you not think this is Weimar 1919-1923 all over again ? Fiat printing on an epic scale 2008 – 2012 how in the world can the NWO control this for another 25 to 35 years to control the great credit contraction ?

5 Mr Ed September 1, 2011 at 5:36 pm

GOLD – In an Upside Down world… September 2, 2011
http://www.runtogold.com/2011/04/marc-faber-gold-valuation/
I think Trace Myer is asking us to imagine an “upside down” world where gold is money and everything else is measured against it…
The world we live in at present is led by people like the Federal Reserve Bank boss – “the Bernank” – who think gold is not money…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRPba7Z809A&feature=player_embedded

In fact, over the past 40 years – since August 15, 1971 – all nations/ people groups around the world have been convinced (forced) to accept “Federal Reserve Notes” (FRN) and accept in “faith” that they will be stable enough to exchange in the future for goods and services.
These “promises to pay” – in the form of FRN’s – are used to measure the “value” of gold and silver on the COMEX and other metals exchanges…
If the world where not “upside down” this would not be the case – the benchmark and all paper currencies would be things that are rare and precious – such as gold and silver…
It used to be this way even when Jesus walked the earth and Judas betrayal money (30 pieces of silver) was enough to buy a piece of real estate!! – The Potters field…
2000 odd years later you cannot buy a property with 30 ounces of silver.

Even at its most recent peak silver was priced at US$50 in 1980. What can you buy today for less than it cost in 1980? This is truly an upside down world…

Here is a little thought game to help understand the point I am trying to get across:
A. If I were to give you $1/second how long would it take for me to give you a MILLION dollars?
ANSWER: 11.57 days!
B. If I were to give you $1/second how long would it take for me to give you a BILLION dollars?
ANSWER: 31.71 years!!!
C. If I were to give you $1/second how long would it take for me to give you TRILLION dollars?
ANSWER: 31,710 years!!!!
Amazing to think? – With US $14 trillion (on balance sheet) debt and US $1.4 trillion/ year deficits, the Bernank’s FRN’s are become more and more plentiful!

Contrast this to gold – please check if I have my facts straight: ALL the gold ever dug out of the ground would fit into a cube 25 meters X 25 meters !!– (75X75 feet)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold
In the last few years we have started to talk in $$trillions – not $$billions of debt based money – and before that it was $$ millions and before that it was a US dollar backed by gold and at one point we had “pounds sterling” (representing a pound of sterling silver!)
“Money” is so easily created by the Bernank and yet these notes are being used as “the world’s benchmark” to value everything – including that which is extremely rare and precious – gold and silver…
It’s difficult to imagine the swindle that has taken place where so many people still believe. They have “full faith” in the credit of the USA (and other world governments) and are totally unaware of this fraud that took place only 40 short years ago…
The US$ bill should read “IN PAPER MONEY WE TRUST”

6 Mr Ed September 4, 2011 at 7:20 pm

For those who are “visual” and did not appreciate just how plentiful $FRN are compared to real money…

This is what a $trillion looks like – its a LOT more than $1 billion…

http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html

7 Bino September 5, 2011 at 5:39 pm

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8 Trace Mayer, J.D. September 5, 2011 at 5:45 pm

Mr Ed, thanks for that helpful graphic which helps us put into perspective these astronomical units of measurement!

9 Trace Mayer, J.D. September 5, 2011 at 5:47 pm

Bino, Thanks for the support! I hope it helps those close to you that are in your circles. You are right, this really is some heady and profound information if people put in the time to comprehend it.

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